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| Lindsay |
5th Mar 2012, 9:24 am
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An absolute peach of easy descriptions for interested people and dog owners!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwnSdvHI8mg How safety affects the ability of counter condioning to alter a dogs response to stimuli. Do watch, it only takes a few minutes Explains why the Open bar/closed bar may not be working... |
| Bunter1 |
5th Mar 2012, 10:02 am
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Nice video - thanks
Totally agree about the safety thing |
| riotous_uk |
5th Mar 2012, 10:37 am
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quite good
I always tell clients that they have to start off counterconditioning at sub-threshold levels, i.e before the dog starts reacting otherwise you don't get that positive emotional response. Only when you've got the emotional change can you start desensitising. |
| Annieskel |
5th Mar 2012, 3:04 pm
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I nearly didn't watch that clip because of the wording thinking I didn't have the knowledge to understand the clip, I am pleased I did watch it, I still don't understand the wording but understood what she was saying.
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| Bunter1 |
5th Mar 2012, 3:06 pm
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I particularly like the bit where she says that we are all very good at habituating our dogs to their names and various commands
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| tangojulie |
5th Mar 2012, 3:19 pm
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Thanks Lindsay, as you say very clearly explained.
Also reminds me how much easier it is to take in stuff when it's put in terms you can relate to - OF COURSE you're not interested in treats if someone's got a gun to your head, I must have read a million times that you have to start off sub threshold but it never quite clicked in the same way as this example did. |
| jackied |
5th Mar 2012, 6:39 pm
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Excellent video. I might watch it again in a bit!
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| amber |
5th Mar 2012, 8:13 pm
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Yes, that was really good and very well explained. I'm re-reading her book 'And Bones would Rain from the Sky' (another thread on here put me in mind of it) and it's so well worth reading a second time.
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| Lindsay |
6th Mar 2012, 7:01 am
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Nice video - thanks Totally agree about the safety thing quite good I always tell clients that they have to start off counterconditioning at sub-threshold levels, i.e before the dog starts reacting otherwise you don't get that positive emotional response. Only when you've got the emotional change can you start desensitising. Yes, agree Riotous - you have to get that positive emotional response first .... often I think that's not clear from books and such. I nearly didn't watch that clip because of the wording thinking I didn't have the knowledge to understand the clip, I am pleased I did watch it, I still don't understand the wording but understood what she was saying. Lindsay x |
| Lindsay |
6th Mar 2012, 7:04 am
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I particularly like the bit where she says that we are all very good at habituating our dogs to their names and various commands Yes, that made me chuckle, a point well made! Thanks Lindsay, as you say very clearly explained. Also reminds me how much easier it is to take in stuff when it's put in terms you can relate to - OF COURSE you're not interested in treats if someone's got a gun to your head, I must have read a million times that you have to start off sub threshold but it never quite clicked in the same way as this example did. Yes, there's something about the way she uses analogies to get things across, she seems to have a good skill in that area. Glad you enjoyed it Excellent video. I might watch it again in a bit! Yes, that was really good and very well explained. I'm re-reading her book 'And Bones would Rain from the Sky' (another thread on here put me in mind of it) and it's so well worth reading a second time. Lindsay x |
| jackied |
6th Mar 2012, 9:07 am
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QUOTE Also reminds me how much easier it is to take in stuff when it's put in terms you can relate to - OF COURSE you're not interested in treats if someone's got a gun to your head, I must have read a million times that you have to start off sub threshold but it never quite clicked in the same way as this example did. Me too, I knew it perfectly well, but it's such a good example. -------------------- |
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