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staffymad
post 2nd Mar 2012, 1:51 pm
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Well Lilly Loon is doing well training wise and we are now working towards the APDT Good Companion Foundation award tongue.gif

I have the list of tasks she needs to do and I was wondering how you guys keep on track with training? Although I try to do short sessions and concentrate on getting solid commands and work on those that she has lacked in a tad (the stand for example) but I was wondering if it would be good to draw up a training plan? I.e. today first session we work on stand/down and up, next session on leave, sit and stay etc?

Just wondering what all you more experienced peeps do flowers.gif
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post 2nd Mar 2012, 2:45 pm
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I keep drawing up a plan, following it for a while, then it lapses again ... I need to be more focussed on training but lack the discipline I guess. And then sometimes I just spend an evening lounging around with the dogs.

In an ideal world lol.gif I would draw up a plan, with each task split into: teaching, proofing, polishing and maintaining. And make sure that at any one time no more than 1 task is in the teaching or proofing phase. Also break down the exercise into it's components and teach them all separately before linking them together. E.g. a retrieve is actually:

- sit at heel
- remain at sit at heel while article is thrown
- leave handler (on command)
- run to article
- pick up article
- turn and return with article
- present article
- release article
- return to heel position
- release/end

Breaking an exercise down and writing down the components I generally do manage to do.

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post 2nd Mar 2012, 3:46 pm
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Thank you flowers.gif You would think someone with OCD would be more obsessed rolleyes.gif lol.gif As for the retrieve - way off that one, first we need to teach her not to eat the ball lol.gif
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post 2nd Mar 2012, 5:15 pm
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QUOTE(staffymad @ 2nd Mar 2012, 3:46 pm) *

Thank you flowers.gif You would think someone with OCD would be more obsessed rolleyes.gif lol.gif As for the retrieve - way off that one, first we need to teach her not to eat the ball lol.gif

Maybe you will be better than me then :-) A touch of OCD would be useful lol.gif For the retrieve, you need to devalue the article (or ball). So, to change her motivation from 'must get the ball' to 'picking up the ball gets me a reward'. So if she's very ball driven, then use something else first and the ball or a treat as the reward.
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post 2nd Mar 2012, 5:51 pm
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I do tend to draw up a training plan and keep records, sometimes not as formally as I should do, but it does help me to make life easy for the dog
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post 2nd Mar 2012, 6:26 pm
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Me too! lol.gif At regular intervals! lol.gif


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post 4th Mar 2012, 12:46 pm
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QUOTE(riotous_uk @ 2nd Mar 2012, 5:51 pm) *

I do tend to draw up a training plan and keep records, sometimes not as formally as I should do, but it does help me to make life easy for the dog



Yes, I try to follow a plan, although don't always stick to it rigidly. It does help though smile.gif
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post 4th Mar 2012, 4:58 pm
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I never have a plan lol.gif
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QUOTE(misty11 @ 4th Mar 2012, 4:58 pm) *

I never have a plan lol.gif

lol.gif lol.gif

Thanks everyone flowers.gif I do have a sort of plan but most of the time, it seems that Lilly has other ideas and as she enjoys what she is doing at that moment in time, I tend to skip forwards and back lol.gif
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post 5th Mar 2012, 2:54 pm
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QUOTE(misty11 @ 4th Mar 2012, 4:58 pm) *

I never have a plan lol.gif


Nor me. We do most of our training on our walks as and when.
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QUOTE(staffymad @ 5th Mar 2012, 2:10 pm) *

Thanks everyone flowers.gif I do have a sort of plan but most of the time, it seems that Lilly has other ideas and as she enjoys what she is doing at that moment in time, I tend to skip forwards and back lol.gif

I am about to write a plan for Bella. Can't say I've ever been keen to write one, but it actually makes a lot of sense smile.gif

Where I am now ----------------------------> How I get there ---------------------------------- Goal

It helps I think so you can keep track, not make assumptions about where you are now, set goals and break things down into manageable chunks. That's not to say you can't re-evaluate and make changes, nor that you have to rigidly do it in the order written!
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QUOTE(HoopZ @ 5th Mar 2012, 2:54 pm) *

Nor me. We do most of our training on our walks as and when.


most of my training is on walks but I still have a plan of where of the end point and the stgeps needed to get there and how far along we have progressed.
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QUOTE(misty11 @ 4th Mar 2012, 4:58 pm) *

I never have a plan lol.gif


I once wrote out a plan then didn't look at it for years.

It was interesting how much I could tick off just training as the opportunity and interest arose and the dog was in the mood.

I'd rather go with the flow with training than impose artificial pressure on myself as to how to get where I'd ideally like to find us eventually. Winging it works pretty well.
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I have never previously used a training plan. For the most, it probably is of little consequence. However, I need to be at a particular place in agility training by a particular date, so I need one!

I also think they can be useful if you have a dog with issues, in order to see how far you've come and break things down into manageable and realistic chunks smile.gif I wish I'd done that with Taff so I could see our journey together err.gif
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QUOTE(Bunter1 @ 5th Mar 2012, 5:09 pm) *

I have never previously used a training plan. For the most, it probably is of little consequence. However, I need to be at a particular place in agility training by a particular date, so I need one!


That's a shame. We always tell people it takes as long as it takes so they don't feel that they have to be ready for a specified date (usually when the dog is 18 months old).

Targets are a good idea if you find it hard to motivate yourself though, but they shouldn't be the be all and end all.

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I also think they can be useful if you have a dog with issues, in order to see how far you've come and break things down into manageable and realistic chunks smile.gif I wish I'd done that with Taff so I could see our journey together err.gif


But don't you find the realisation that you have made great progress dawns on you at some point whether you have a plan or not?

I don't see breaking things down as a plan - just part and parcel of all training.
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